hold the phone! http://gawker.com/everything-com...

maybe I'm being a little too rigid about what he's saying here, but something about this dude's response grinds my gears...

Hip-hop was quite alive and relevant during grunge. It was buttressing and influencing a ton of music/icians. Little mousey singe songwriters, bombastic rock&roll guys, concert musicians- folks all over the city, town and country -all kinds of peeps! Daamn son! Grunge' and 90's rock stuff overlaps, with what is known as the Golden Era... of hip-hop. Think about it, a band like Korn could never have existed without hiphop having been a thing. At least in the form we came to know, not in the fucking slightest; the lead singer wearing trackpants and shelltoes? That was already considered classic and kinda retro at that point.

Some people out there, don't seem to realize the GINORMOUS FACT that tons and tons of people young and old, young AND old I say, were listening to lots and lots of hiphop, before it started selling sprite and using autotune—when big big money did discover that it was a viable genre and a sophisticated form of expression with mountains of thought behind that expression, big-big Money finally decided to make a buck off it... and shit, low and behold, the fanbase was already intact and well established. How do we suppose that happened?

It wasn't a millenial phenomenon, not in the slightest. Anyway...

...listen to the drummer get wicked!

Public Enemy & Anthrax - Bring the Noise (1991)